"More food for thought."
Published on September 5, 2004 By Insightful In Politics
There are times that we get caught up in our own little world that we miss some of the fringe stuff.

Please allow me to give you some impartial, observations from this window.

I don't remember as many books being written about a President, seeking a second term before.
Negative Books with titles such as,

Worse Then Watergate."

"Plan Of Attack"

"Exporting American"

"Losing America"

"License To Steel"

"Against All Enemies"

And that is just to name a few.
And we're not talking about radical or, off beat, authors either. We're talking legimate people such as,

Bob Woodward, of the Washington Post

Senator: Robert C. Byrd

Richard Clark: who worked for Clinton as well as Bush.

Paul H. O'Neal, and John H. Dean

Kind of makes one scratch their head and wonder, "what's going on here?" Am I missing something that I should know about?

I don't remember all the demonstrations directed towards a sitting President in quite some time. hmmmmmmm?
There is a huge sector out there, that aren't really voting for Kerry, as much as they are voting against Bush.

I don't remember as many Foreign countries being upset with the U.S. and our policies before. Don't get me wrong. We were never endeared by every nation. But today it seems so disproportionate. I saw some of our Olympic athletes being booeeed, simply because they were Americans.   "Dang!"
I felt bad for these athletes. They didn't set Government Policy. They were merely there to compete.
(Some athletes did act up and in that case, they deserved what they got.)
I am aware of the "Ugly American."

I've always been of the mind-set that, at any given time, regarding any subject, people may disagree with you. All presidents have had folks that did not agree with their policies.
But I candidly don't remember it being this passionate before, and by so many, people, organizations, and countries. Am I smelling smoke of a smoldering fire?

Please, this is just an observation that many of us may be overlooking. I haven't a clue on, "who" I might vote for as of this date. I am working diligently to sort things out. This "non-headline issue" has grabbed my attention. Could there be something below the radar screen that we're not seeing? Are we so wrapped up in the American flag that we have lost our objectivity?

This is merely another thought, that you might wish to include in your process of........
I wish for no surprises after the election. A second term President is almost licensed to kill, for he needs your vote no more.
I will continue to look for answers until November 2nd.

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on Sep 06, 2004
Pictoratus

Your point is well taken. But it doesn't address why some Replicans are not voting for Bush the second time around? Why is our ideology not floating well in Europe among other places on the map?
Why is Richard Clark, who worked on both sides of the isle, so upset?


You're correct, it doesn't address any short term issues such as you stated. It was merely intented to be an observation of a relatively long term shift, the tendencys arising from it, and the effect it is having on political speech.

I would guess that if the republicans retain control of the presidency and increase their majorities in both houses of congress and the shift towards conservatism by the public continues, the reaction by the left will be to lean further and further left and to become more and more desperate. Which means more and more of the type of campaigning we are seeing now.

As an aside, Clinton's biggest appeal, in my opinion, was that he was moving toward the right (moderate or centrist). Which explains why he was as popular as he was. I don't think the left will move far enough to the right to compete for the conservative tendencies of the public.

I realize this may seem off topic but it goes to the root of the speech issue.
on Sep 06, 2004
Gideon
As usual, your insight and reply is apprecieated. I have heard and read about, some mysterious deaths, accidental or otherwise.
(read suspicious)
regarding people that may have known, too much shall we say. And of course, everybody knows about the Waco disaster.
I will do some homework on books published, re: the Clinton years. Still, I can't imagine the numbers will match the present lot.
Thanks again.

Pictoratus

Your point is well taken and thought-out. There might be some validity in that viewpoint.

Hey! Maybe the, "Dems", should have sent Bill Clinton himself back into the wars. He beat George W's daddy? Maybe he could beat the, kid, as well?
(Tongue in cheek)

Thank you for your input.
on Sep 06, 2004
Chemicalkinetics

Obviously, you have misread the intent of my forum. You and I might debate issues until the oceans run dry.
If I have mislead you, in that, my purpose was to invite debate, I apologize.

However, I am not interested in getting into a P-----g contest with you or anyone else for that matter.

I invite folks to do their own research and come to their own conclusions.

I believe your first reply was more then adequate to inspire some folks to possibly pick up a book or two.
People do not need "YOU or ME" to tell them, what or how to think.
Quit taking yourself so seriously.
This Blogging thing is supposed to be fun you know.

Now open a window, take a deep breath, and put your anger back in your pocket.
Regardless of who gets elected, the sun will shine come November 3rd.

Have a nice day.
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